South Sudan Embassy Just Got A Bad Rep, A Really Bad Rep. Assault Story in New York. A Discussion About Diplomatic Immunity.
Posted by HCN on Wednesday, August 24, 2022
Written evening August 23, 2022 EST
Unfortunately, our most recent story here on HCN started out with one story is not enough, another story has to be written. This was in regard to the information found about an assault case in Reston, Virginia last Sunday. Then it was found out there was an assault of a late 50s aged women in Little Saigon, in the open streets in broad daylight, last Sunday. Now come to find out there is yet another very disturbing story involving a United Nations diplomat for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation in South Sudan, in carrying out assault or assault-like behavior in Upper Manhattan, New York, last Sunday, and it has to be said again, there is another situation being written about and has to be dealt with.
Frankly, that is the startup of one of the places where young fellas think in their minds that assault on females is 'cool', ok, allowable, and even encouraged at times. Here in the US, many are trying to figure out why there are so many brazen assaults done by young men between 16 and roughly 26. Youth that do not have diplomatic immunity are exposed to youth or young adults who do, and carry on activities, and carry on activities, repeatedly, and get away with it, because they or a member of their household, often a parent, has this magical charm called diplomatic immunity. The diplomat's kid can solicit or engage in assignation of prostitution as though it is a part of everyday life. They can run red lights, they can throw glass bottles of liquid at people, vehicularly assault, so on and so forth. Just how broad the band of behavior is might not be rounded in up in one investigation.
Evidently, New York police arrested the suspect, and he was subsequently let go, under umbrella of diplomatic immunity.
Aspects have changed over the years. Individuals engaging in misconduct might still be asked to face consequences in the applicable framework.
The idea, or at least a part of it, of diplomatic immunity, is to ensure allowing important diplomatic relations to continue even though a latent low-lying event may have occurred which might not constitute a major criminal act, but could be enough to disrupt serious developments such as negotiations between nations. For illustration, a diplomat's teenage son gets identical wallets confused in a joke played on him, and he walks off with the wallet to his surprise is someone else's, who calls police and charges theft. As the wallet is being returned, police arrest. Come to find out, the jokester was an agent of the country that was not exactly receiving the large donation of money to make their economy better, but receiving the embargo.
Diplomatic immunity is not in place so a diplomat or ambassador or one of their kids can assault human beings, notably in reference to the incident, a female, multiple times, or even once, whenever and wherever they want.
There are other diplomacy rules in existence and effect. The suspect's actions are not ones where he can just be free as the wind whips.
The police may have let the suspect go, however, it does not make the behavior correct.
Confusion sets in sometimes, and people that engage in wrongdoing start thinking that the wrongful behavior is actually correct, and they can kick back and laugh when faced with the prospect of arrest, because they have the diplomatic immunity.
Is this what happened here?
The question is up on the table for sure.
A rescue to the suspect's defense might help save face.
An aspect of this case is there is a background with South Sudan that involves certain expectations.
For decades, maybe even a half century, maybe longer, there has been mixed views sometimes even criticism about the potentiality of South Sudan coming into existence, regardless of whether it really has or has not for a length of time known to the story it comes from.
The practice of the way of life known as Islam, is supposed to have a big part in the developments in the region, Sudan, South Sudan, just a few hops over the sea from the Arab Peninsula, basically a region just up or down, or just miles west of where the last Prophet (of Arabia) {salal..} had according to some records his second wife from after the first passed away. She was tall, and so on, to jog back memory.
[Edit Nov. 3 2022: "Sawdah and Sakran emigrated to Abyssinia[4] when Muhammad ordered many of the Muslims to perform Hijrah in order to avoid persecution by the Quraysh". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawdah_bint_Zam%27ah [4] Tabari, Tarikh al-Rusul...; ... bin Qys... according to many online sources as a reference pertinent clans. Maps validating claim of locale https://etc.usf.edu/maps/pages/3600/3644/3644.htm; preceding paragraph intended to be a brief reference, however perhaps a portion of the last sentence more safely reworded to: according to some records, a region where his second wife may have stayed at least for a time after...]
There are some discomforts in a number of regions of the world with South Sudan is what the bottom line is, and now a story like the assault is being exposed.
Was the woman someone the diplomat had some kind of marital or permissible relation with?
If not, there is big trouble brimming.
A judge may have to judge; here in the US, among cousins in the same apartment unit may not fly to form the basis of social rules as it might in remote areas of Sudan many years ago where for instance there are only 2 or 3 cars per 20 or 30 square miles, and the young adult folks had access to minimum education about social laws. Many walks of life and cultures side by side exist here in the US.
Well some might say the diplomat was not a Muslim, and so the expectations and rules about 'zina', or fornication briefly, does not apply to him. Geographically, it may be a close call back where the suspect is or was from, and persons not Muslim may be welcome to live in Sudan or South Sudan, or even be diplomats.
However, the behavior exhibited in this incident, diplomatic immunity rules aside, is brushing too close to one, the massive population of South Sudan and Sudanese that recognize some kind of rule set involving not only fornication, Muslim or other religion, but an assault on top of that, and, two, numerous folks in New York that know about the referent zina/ fornication/adultery rules, exacerbated by assault, and of course worldwide in general.
Minimally, this is one where if the facts of what has been disclosed to the public are correct, and there indeed was an assault, this individual needs to no longer be a diplomat.
Going so far to say he should be sent back to South Sudan and let the authorities deal with him there, might be out of line because the consequences he might face could be of intense danger.
At the accepted to state level, the behavior read about in the Manhattan incident report is straightforwardly not tolerated, by US citizens, by individuals that state they are Muslim, by New Yorkers, or any aboveboard diplomatic entity or embassy.
Unfortunately, our most recent story here on HCN started out with one story is not enough, another story has to be written. This was in regard to the information found about an assault case in Reston, Virginia last Sunday. Then it was found out there was an assault of a late 50s aged women in Little Saigon, in the open streets in broad daylight, last Sunday. Now come to find out there is yet another very disturbing story involving a United Nations diplomat for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation in South Sudan, in carrying out assault or assault-like behavior in Upper Manhattan, New York, last Sunday, and it has to be said again, there is another situation being written about and has to be dealt with.
Frankly, that is the startup of one of the places where young fellas think in their minds that assault on females is 'cool', ok, allowable, and even encouraged at times. Here in the US, many are trying to figure out why there are so many brazen assaults done by young men between 16 and roughly 26. Youth that do not have diplomatic immunity are exposed to youth or young adults who do, and carry on activities, and carry on activities, repeatedly, and get away with it, because they or a member of their household, often a parent, has this magical charm called diplomatic immunity. The diplomat's kid can solicit or engage in assignation of prostitution as though it is a part of everyday life. They can run red lights, they can throw glass bottles of liquid at people, vehicularly assault, so on and so forth. Just how broad the band of behavior is might not be rounded in up in one investigation.
Evidently, New York police arrested the suspect, and he was subsequently let go, under umbrella of diplomatic immunity.
Aspects have changed over the years. Individuals engaging in misconduct might still be asked to face consequences in the applicable framework.
The idea, or at least a part of it, of diplomatic immunity, is to ensure allowing important diplomatic relations to continue even though a latent low-lying event may have occurred which might not constitute a major criminal act, but could be enough to disrupt serious developments such as negotiations between nations. For illustration, a diplomat's teenage son gets identical wallets confused in a joke played on him, and he walks off with the wallet to his surprise is someone else's, who calls police and charges theft. As the wallet is being returned, police arrest. Come to find out, the jokester was an agent of the country that was not exactly receiving the large donation of money to make their economy better, but receiving the embargo.
Diplomatic immunity is not in place so a diplomat or ambassador or one of their kids can assault human beings, notably in reference to the incident, a female, multiple times, or even once, whenever and wherever they want.
There are other diplomacy rules in existence and effect. The suspect's actions are not ones where he can just be free as the wind whips.
The police may have let the suspect go, however, it does not make the behavior correct.
Confusion sets in sometimes, and people that engage in wrongdoing start thinking that the wrongful behavior is actually correct, and they can kick back and laugh when faced with the prospect of arrest, because they have the diplomatic immunity.
Is this what happened here?
The question is up on the table for sure.
A rescue to the suspect's defense might help save face.
An aspect of this case is there is a background with South Sudan that involves certain expectations.
For decades, maybe even a half century, maybe longer, there has been mixed views sometimes even criticism about the potentiality of South Sudan coming into existence, regardless of whether it really has or has not for a length of time known to the story it comes from.
The practice of the way of life known as Islam, is supposed to have a big part in the developments in the region, Sudan, South Sudan, just a few hops over the sea from the Arab Peninsula, basically a region just up or down, or just miles west of where the last Prophet (of Arabia) {salal..} had according to some records his second wife from after the first passed away. She was tall, and so on, to jog back memory.
[Edit Nov. 3 2022: "Sawdah and Sakran emigrated to Abyssinia[4] when Muhammad ordered many of the Muslims to perform Hijrah in order to avoid persecution by the Quraysh". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawdah_bint_Zam%27ah [4] Tabari, Tarikh al-Rusul...; ... bin Qys... according to many online sources as a reference pertinent clans. Maps validating claim of locale https://etc.usf.edu/maps/pages/3600/3644/3644.htm; preceding paragraph intended to be a brief reference, however perhaps a portion of the last sentence more safely reworded to: according to some records, a region where his second wife may have stayed at least for a time after...]
There are some discomforts in a number of regions of the world with South Sudan is what the bottom line is, and now a story like the assault is being exposed.
Was the woman someone the diplomat had some kind of marital or permissible relation with?
If not, there is big trouble brimming.
A judge may have to judge; here in the US, among cousins in the same apartment unit may not fly to form the basis of social rules as it might in remote areas of Sudan many years ago where for instance there are only 2 or 3 cars per 20 or 30 square miles, and the young adult folks had access to minimum education about social laws. Many walks of life and cultures side by side exist here in the US.
Well some might say the diplomat was not a Muslim, and so the expectations and rules about 'zina', or fornication briefly, does not apply to him. Geographically, it may be a close call back where the suspect is or was from, and persons not Muslim may be welcome to live in Sudan or South Sudan, or even be diplomats.
However, the behavior exhibited in this incident, diplomatic immunity rules aside, is brushing too close to one, the massive population of South Sudan and Sudanese that recognize some kind of rule set involving not only fornication, Muslim or other religion, but an assault on top of that, and, two, numerous folks in New York that know about the referent zina/ fornication/adultery rules, exacerbated by assault, and of course worldwide in general.
Minimally, this is one where if the facts of what has been disclosed to the public are correct, and there indeed was an assault, this individual needs to no longer be a diplomat.
Going so far to say he should be sent back to South Sudan and let the authorities deal with him there, might be out of line because the consequences he might face could be of intense danger.
At the accepted to state level, the behavior read about in the Manhattan incident report is straightforwardly not tolerated, by US citizens, by individuals that state they are Muslim, by New Yorkers, or any aboveboard diplomatic entity or embassy.
