Protesting Melees in Amsterdam November 7, 2024, Sorting Out the Facts
Posted by HCN on Saturday, November 9, 2024
The moment it was seen on television people running to and fro, some in dark helmets and anti-riot gear, some with incendiary devices, flares and flags, a light went on that something dangerous was headed out of control, and was sort of in an unusual place, which could be signs that more events like it could erupt in different major cities in the world.
At a soccer match, the melee broke out.
It appears that many of the participants were male.
There were signs that some of the confusion was 'engineered'.
How to start a riot 101 activities were going on in the area.
People know that the pain on what is now considered a 2-sided battle,- that both sides have endured much pain over the 'Pro-Palestine, 'Pro-Israel' dynamic over the past 13, 14 months. And that could be used to 'pull on heart-strings'.
Yes there is a concern about the general status of safety in Amsterdam, but also in cities where similar 'fabrics' could exist. Sports fans, males plenty between 18 and 40, aggressive, some agitated with situation of Gaza and Israel, some wishing to agitate perhaps as a sign of retaliation for what they believe in.
The Parises, Frankfurts, Romes, NY cities, LAs, Chicagos, Mexico Cities, Athens, Rios, if not careful, similar events could slide in, almost night and into the night, at an athletic event or music gathering. Keeping watchful eyes for the beginnings of the stirrings so mitigations can be successful in the early going, may be smart.
It's a shame that things got down to a level of a 2 sided political fight, a 2 sided ideology, a 2 sided ethnicity, all forming up a simple 2 sides, then confusion, violence, confusion, the pattern continues.
There are other memories of elders.
Such as what Palestine went through during the era of Sabra and Shatila (massacre in the 1970s).
Such as the numerous Prophets that emerged from the Palestine region over the ages.
The large quantities of knowledge and history that is in large part amongst youth today, lost. History about ancestry, the folds of religions, armies and much more, of Palestine, Bany Israel and so on, seems like not only is it forgotten, but some did not learn it.
The old and perhaps real meaning of hizb, hizbullah, those that strive for perfection, for thousands of years, later day becomes a household word to mean a politically motivated group that is about violence. There are many areas that could constitute becoming hizb in the original meaningof the word.
This before it saying it seems like some media outlets are trying to lump all of Iran and all of Lebanon as one big group that is tied with a set of individuals that wish not for Israel to be a stable nation with geographic stake in the region of the Arab World. Is that really how it is or how it was?
Think about it, there have been numerous groups and thoughts in the region, that have all strove for different stakes in the Palestine region over the centuries. Christians were there, Druze were there, Assyrians and Chaldeans nearby. Where are any, any of these, brought up in today's rampages through the city streets?
That's where the signal comes in to the elders, that some of the rioting, might be limited in fullness of the degree, that prevents it from looking somewhat fleeting compared to older times. Concerns arise whether some of the rioting seen in the news over recent weeks is simply to start riots.
The suggestion of course, is in lieu of confusional rioting, engage in study, and work on your differences in constructive, humane methods. This also applies to some of the violence taking place in the Palestine region, -firing rockets in areas full of children, -no, makes no sense, unproductive, unacceptable.
It may be hard for some to stay settled when they see and hear about the grotesque actions of violence especially upon innocent and children, however, sometimes controlled striving methodologies can be more constructive, and effective.
What is also being seen in the news today, are stories that are portraying what happened in Amerstam over the past few days is something new. Au contraire, it is not. A quick history check, 'Jews' which maybe they were called then, maybe not, there are other terms that go back and forth, retroactive, whether entirely befitting or not-- Jews were persecuted in Amerstam before, around the era of the concentration camps, a reference to the Hitler days.
Briefly, there was what may have been referred to as the Holocaust of the Netherlands.
There is also written material on Reichskommissars that was set in the Netherlands having to do with certain strategies.
The Netherlands and Amsterdam of today, in the computer age, sure, no one would have thought of such an incident like what happened yesterday at the soccer match would have shown up. But, being truthful throughout all dimensions and not getting caught up in the excitement, frenzies and ironies of the story to the point that exaggerations start becoming accepted as truth, may have wisdom; when it comes time for developing solutions, inaccuracy can get in the way, and jumble when people step forward with a thorough review of the facts that may be able to help.
At a soccer match, the melee broke out.
It appears that many of the participants were male.
There were signs that some of the confusion was 'engineered'.
How to start a riot 101 activities were going on in the area.
People know that the pain on what is now considered a 2-sided battle,- that both sides have endured much pain over the 'Pro-Palestine, 'Pro-Israel' dynamic over the past 13, 14 months. And that could be used to 'pull on heart-strings'.
Yes there is a concern about the general status of safety in Amsterdam, but also in cities where similar 'fabrics' could exist. Sports fans, males plenty between 18 and 40, aggressive, some agitated with situation of Gaza and Israel, some wishing to agitate perhaps as a sign of retaliation for what they believe in.
The Parises, Frankfurts, Romes, NY cities, LAs, Chicagos, Mexico Cities, Athens, Rios, if not careful, similar events could slide in, almost night and into the night, at an athletic event or music gathering. Keeping watchful eyes for the beginnings of the stirrings so mitigations can be successful in the early going, may be smart.
It's a shame that things got down to a level of a 2 sided political fight, a 2 sided ideology, a 2 sided ethnicity, all forming up a simple 2 sides, then confusion, violence, confusion, the pattern continues.
There are other memories of elders.
Such as what Palestine went through during the era of Sabra and Shatila (massacre in the 1970s).
Such as the numerous Prophets that emerged from the Palestine region over the ages.
The large quantities of knowledge and history that is in large part amongst youth today, lost. History about ancestry, the folds of religions, armies and much more, of Palestine, Bany Israel and so on, seems like not only is it forgotten, but some did not learn it.
The old and perhaps real meaning of hizb, hizbullah, those that strive for perfection, for thousands of years, later day becomes a household word to mean a politically motivated group that is about violence. There are many areas that could constitute becoming hizb in the original meaningof the word.
This before it saying it seems like some media outlets are trying to lump all of Iran and all of Lebanon as one big group that is tied with a set of individuals that wish not for Israel to be a stable nation with geographic stake in the region of the Arab World. Is that really how it is or how it was?
Think about it, there have been numerous groups and thoughts in the region, that have all strove for different stakes in the Palestine region over the centuries. Christians were there, Druze were there, Assyrians and Chaldeans nearby. Where are any, any of these, brought up in today's rampages through the city streets?
That's where the signal comes in to the elders, that some of the rioting, might be limited in fullness of the degree, that prevents it from looking somewhat fleeting compared to older times. Concerns arise whether some of the rioting seen in the news over recent weeks is simply to start riots.
The suggestion of course, is in lieu of confusional rioting, engage in study, and work on your differences in constructive, humane methods. This also applies to some of the violence taking place in the Palestine region, -firing rockets in areas full of children, -no, makes no sense, unproductive, unacceptable.
It may be hard for some to stay settled when they see and hear about the grotesque actions of violence especially upon innocent and children, however, sometimes controlled striving methodologies can be more constructive, and effective.
What is also being seen in the news today, are stories that are portraying what happened in Amerstam over the past few days is something new. Au contraire, it is not. A quick history check, 'Jews' which maybe they were called then, maybe not, there are other terms that go back and forth, retroactive, whether entirely befitting or not-- Jews were persecuted in Amerstam before, around the era of the concentration camps, a reference to the Hitler days.
Briefly, there was what may have been referred to as the Holocaust of the Netherlands.
There is also written material on Reichskommissars that was set in the Netherlands having to do with certain strategies.
The Netherlands and Amsterdam of today, in the computer age, sure, no one would have thought of such an incident like what happened yesterday at the soccer match would have shown up. But, being truthful throughout all dimensions and not getting caught up in the excitement, frenzies and ironies of the story to the point that exaggerations start becoming accepted as truth, may have wisdom; when it comes time for developing solutions, inaccuracy can get in the way, and jumble when people step forward with a thorough review of the facts that may be able to help.
