Lost in the Water. Two Major Incidents. Technology and, or the Use of it to Find Crash Victims in Water Need Bump Up
Posted by HCN on Tuesday, April 23, 2024
It was made pretty well known information that in the past several days, it is reported 2 Japanese military helicopters, not just one, crashed and were lost, still today, search is ongoing.
Update 4/23/24 night, article interjected: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2-japanese-navy-helicopters-crash-pacific-ocean-torishima-island/
"One crew member who had been recovered from the waters was later pronounced dead, while rescuers searched for seven others who were still missing.
Rescuers have recovered a flight data recorder, a blade from each helicopter, and fragments believed to be from both choppers in the same area"
From a technology standpoint, when metal that large, abundance of electronic equipment, tracking systems, satellites to observe, submarines that can explore deep sea and ocean floors, and much more, is the status, today in 2024, it is nearly impossible to be lost without recovery but for so long.
Some known, conceivable exceptions that might make finding transportation machines that crashed into deep waters difficult might be:
Update 4/23/24 night, article interjected: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2-japanese-navy-helicopters-crash-pacific-ocean-torishima-island/
"One crew member who had been recovered from the waters was later pronounced dead, while rescuers searched for seven others who were still missing.
Rescuers have recovered a flight data recorder, a blade from each helicopter, and fragments believed to be from both choppers in the same area"
From a technology standpoint, when metal that large, abundance of electronic equipment, tracking systems, satellites to observe, submarines that can explore deep sea and ocean floors, and much more, is the status, today in 2024, it is nearly impossible to be lost without recovery but for so long.
Some known, conceivable exceptions that might make finding transportation machines that crashed into deep waters difficult might be:
- Sea or ocean floor vaults that open up, swallow certain matters, and then cover back up
- Implosions, to extent fragments of initial object in the water, such as a large machine, boat, etc, are very small
- Extremely strong currents, such as an ocean vortex, that remove debris to an extremely far away location from initial crash sites
In Baltimore, Maryland, the renown F Scott Key Bridge incident in recent weeks back, late March 2023, where it toppled, and persons are missing, saw similar predicament.
My personal feeling about both incidents, is that they, and incidents like them, should receive international cooperation, for search and rescue and helping in aspects to bring the situation to the best closure possible.
-There might be a certain amount of oxygen, breathing air, remaining, if what a survivor is in remains intact enough, even if underwater, for varying times, such as a couple of minutes to couple of days.
Bluntly, I just refuse to accept that with all the technology that exists, in the US, in Japan, and other nations, rescue operations, and private firms, that all the bodies and the helicopters could not be found, both incidents, and in the amount of time considered reasonable, roughly 24 to 48 hours after the crash/disappearance, enough time to ship needed equipment (search vessels, computers, et al) to the site.
There are other incidents that occurred which the efforts thereunto to might be applied to the two, such as:
Further reading:
My personal feeling about both incidents, is that they, and incidents like them, should receive international cooperation, for search and rescue and helping in aspects to bring the situation to the best closure possible.
-There might be a certain amount of oxygen, breathing air, remaining, if what a survivor is in remains intact enough, even if underwater, for varying times, such as a couple of minutes to couple of days.
Bluntly, I just refuse to accept that with all the technology that exists, in the US, in Japan, and other nations, rescue operations, and private firms, that all the bodies and the helicopters could not be found, both incidents, and in the amount of time considered reasonable, roughly 24 to 48 hours after the crash/disappearance, enough time to ship needed equipment (search vessels, computers, et al) to the site.
There are other incidents that occurred which the efforts thereunto to might be applied to the two, such as:
- Deep sea explorer that was lost with wealthy businessmen, reference Titan submarine in June 2023.
- Malaysian flight disaster, especially MH370 in 2014, where plane was missing for a long time, there are reports that parts of the plane finally showed up miles away including and namely near Madagascar.
- Perhaps checking between the point of the disappearance and where the Malaysian flight fragments are claimed to have showed up, because if the helicopters were subject to the same vortexes, ocean currents, etc, they might head in the same direction. Deep sea creatures involved with the dynamics aside. [This paragraph may have viability issues as fragments have been found near the crash site within several days of the crash time]
- There might be some elements relevant here, as regionally the waters are near, even though technically the 2 incidents are about 1900 or so miles away
Further reading:
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 vanished 10 years ago today. What have we learned about what happened?
Updated on: March 8, 2024 / 1:37 PM EST / CBS Newshttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-what-do-we-know/
...last text of British billionaire stuck in missing Titanic sub...
